Wardrobe Wisdom: The REAL Secret to a Sustainable Capsule Wardrobe

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The average Australian wears, we wear our clothes seven times on

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average before we get rid of them.

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We're buying as a country of people we're

buying 52 items each new per year, wearing

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them seven times and getting rid of it.

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Whereas like what you're going to

do by building a capsule wardrobe

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or building, outfits out of what

you own is saving yourself thousands

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and thousands of dollars on things

that you are not going to buy.

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Chryssius: Hey, Relovers.

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Welcome to Reloved Radio.

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Today's guest is a sustainable

fashion expert based in Perth, Western

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Australia, who specialises in curating

wearable wardrobes by harnessing

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the power of what you already have.

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Whether it's through her online and

in-home styling services, engaging

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workshops, or immersive preloved

fashion tours, she's redefining

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our relationship with clothing.

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But here's where it gets

even more fascinating...

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our guest is currently on a personal

journey; a challenge of sorts.

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She's committed to buying no new or

secondhand clothes, pushing her creativity

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and outfit building skills to the limit.

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And today she's here to share

that experience with us.

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With a decade of experience in the

world of preloved fashion, our guest

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is armed with an in-depth knowledge

on how to successfully navigate

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the secondhand shopping scene.

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And she's here to guide us on selecting

beautiful high quality garments that

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seamlessly blend with our existing

wardrobe, ensuring they're not just

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pieces we wear once, but again and again.

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Let's welcome our sustainable

fashion guru and advocate for

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mindful wardrobe curation, Hazel

Law of the Curated Wardrobe.

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Welcome, Hazel.

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Hazel: Hello.

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Thank you so much.

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It was so lovely hearing, all of

those words come out of your mouth.

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It was so great hearing that back.

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I was like, oh, yes, that is me.

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So yeah, thanks for having me.

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Chryssius: My pleasure.

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And I am really excited to have you here.

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I have a lot of questions,

especially about this whole not

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buying any new clothes thing.

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So I'm going to start with that...

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Hazel: Yes.

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Amazing.

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Chryssius: What actually inspired

you to start your journey

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of buying no new clothes?

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And also, I guess, how has this

impacted your personal style and

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your complete outlook on fashion?

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Hazel: Yes.

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Okay.

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Big question.

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So I actually started doing

the, uh, Remake "30 Days of

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Buying No New Clothes" challenge.

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And they do allow secondhand

clothes, back in July last year.

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And that was just for me, a bit

of a reset and I was like, this is

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interesting because, I consider myself,

you know, in the slow fashion movement,

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I consider myself someone who is very

sustainable with their fashion choices.

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And yet this reset really showed me

that I was using secondhand clothing

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as basically as fast fashion.

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And I was getting through it in

that same way that we associate with

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the consumption of fast fashion.

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So, you know, I'd go to the op

shops every few, um, weekends.

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It was a recreational thing that

I love to do with my friends.

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I'm always looking for, new textures, new

prints, all of that stuff, which I love

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and it kind of fills me with so much joy.

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But when I really stopped doing that for

those 30 days, I realised that I was maybe

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wearing those pieces once or twice, and

then donating them back to the op shop.

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So, you know, that was a really a big

wake up call for me, in terms of my actual

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consumption around secondhand clothing.

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And then it led to, you know, I just

wanted to see how far I could push it.

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So then in August I was

like, right, that's it.

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I'm just going to do 365 days.

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I am really dedicated

to see how this goes.

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I'm really interested to see what

the journey shows me about, not

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only about myself and my consumption

habits, but also about my styling,

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about my ability to look great.

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Be someone who people can look to.

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And say, yeah, she looks

great, she looks cool.

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And then I can tell them, "Hey,

I've never, I haven't bought

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any new clothes in the last, I

think today it's like 148 days."

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Which I believe is kind of like a

really good option for my clients.

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Like I've got that lived experience

now when I say, "Hey, we're going

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to build outfits that you love from

what you have," and they go, "Oh,

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but how do you know that works?"

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Like, 'cause I've done it.

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And yeah, I've got more to

say, but I kind of, could just

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repeat the end of your question?

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Chryssius: How has it impacted your

personal style and your outlook?

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Hazel: Yes.

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So I I guess anyone who knows me well

will attest to the fact that I love

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a challenge and, I felt like it was a

really great opportunity to stop buying

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clothes the same month that I launched

my own styling business because like I

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said, it gives me that lived experience

to go to my clients and say, we're going

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to build these great outfits for you,

and I've got the key, I've got the

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skills to show you how to do that so

that you've got those skills yourself.

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For my own styling it, I've never

felt more like excited and, um,

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satisfied with my own wardrobe.

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Like it's such, now getting

dressed is really a delight

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and I was so skeptical of it.

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I have, you know, X amount of clothing.

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I think when I did my audit.

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I've got 120 pieces of clothing,

including accessories and

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shoes in my wardrobe there.

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I haven't gotten rid of anything in

the last, um, since I started this

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challenge and I haven't added anything.

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So really what I've got to work with

within that constraint has absolutely

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pushed my boundaries on how I'm going

to look appropriate for different

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occasions, how I'm going to really get the

versatility out of my own wardrobe and how

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yeah, how I'm going to look like present

myself, to people who have never met me

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in the way introducing myself as a stylist

and you know, in mainly just secondhand

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clothes that are really just fast fashion.

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Chryssius: I think that probably a

lot of people can relate to that too.

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Especially when you first start out

thrifting or op-shopping, when you see

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all the clothes and they're so cheap.

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And it is a real mindset thing where

we're stuck in that rut of, um,

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you know, we just want to consume.

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I know that that happened to

me in the beginning as well.

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So definitely have been making an

effort to be more mindful about what I'm

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purchasing, you know, making a list and

sticking to it and that sort of thing.

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The other thing I was going to say is I

imagine that the concept of going without

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buying any new clothes is probably

quite foreign to a lot of people.

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And quite challenging.

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Do you have any tips, or what have

you learned so far in terms of

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building diverse outfits or new

outfits from what you already have?

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Hazel: What's been really surprising

is that I've absolutely embraced

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the concept of capsule wardrobes.

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And before I started not buying anything,

I was a kind of longtime admirer of the

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concept, but also highly skeptical of

it because I think there's a belief or

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that's kind of like pushed out by the

women, um, the stylists of Pinterest,

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let's say, that a capsule wardrobe has

to be a new wardrobe that it has to

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be, it has all of these rules and these

stipulations where it's like, you know,

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it has to be two different colours or

three different colours, choose them.

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And if you don't already have

those colours that you want in your

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capsule wardrobe, you then have to

go out and buy all these new pieces

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that are then going to go together.

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And what I've discovered is that,

through the capsule wardrobe, it

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really just ignites your creativity.

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So yes, absolutely.

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Those rules are very interesting and

very kind of, you know, when you're just

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starting out, they're very important

to choose your colour scheme and choose

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things that are a bit more neutral

and maybe don't have as much pattern.

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But if you just use the clothes that

you have and choose 30 pieces, then

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that is what's going to give you the

creative output that you're maybe

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looking for if you fall into a style

rut when you're not buying anything new.

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And it also has given me the, the same

dopamine as buying something new, the

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same hit as buying something new in

putting together a new outfit from stuff

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that I already own and stuff that I

have never worn necessarily together.

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Or really put together or

like, thought about it.

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And now I'm obsessed.

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Like I go to, I go to bed thinking

about, okay, I've got these, like six

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pieces that I haven't worn so much

in my capsule in the last two weeks.

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Like, how can I incorporate them into

my outfits in the next week or so?

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Chryssius: On the topic then

of, you know, rules, although I

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say rules in inverted commas...

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Hazel: Yes.

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Chryssius: Those Pinterest rules, when

you're helping your clients curate

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their wardrobes using their own existing

pieces, how are you approaching it then?

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I mean, are you going down the

route of, you know, maybe a certain

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number of base colours, or are you

restricting the number of items and

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the total capsule, that sort of thing?

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How are you doing it?

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Hazel: So, I guess I'm going

to answer this in two ways.

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So my first answer is that I

believe that the rules are there to

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help, but then they can be broken.

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So, for example, the biggest question

I get around capsule wardrobes is,

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"What if I want to swap something in?

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What if I am, I've got an

event that I need to go to and

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I want to wear X, Y, and Z?"

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And.

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What I say to them is, it's your capsule.

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Like it needs to work for you.

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It's not, you know, no one on the outside

is looking in saying, oh, you're not

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allowed to do this, that, and the other.

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Like, I think if you want to swap one

item in and out every few weeks to keep

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it fresh for you, absolutely do that.

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And that will give you, you know,

even more outfit building capacity

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within that capsule wardrobe.

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The first time I did a capsule,

I, was very restrictive in terms

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of my shoes and my accessories.

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But actually now giving myself free

reign over what shoes I wear and what

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accessories I wear can really give, you

know, different, layers and different

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interests to pieces that I can then

wear in a more versatile way that I

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can wear for work, that I can then

wear for my every day, my, you know,

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if I'm going out or whatever it is.

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It just, having say the 30 pieces and

being able to use that as a base, but

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then, you know, just do whatever you

actually want to do and make it work for

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you is what's really important, I think.

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And then with my clients, often, my

clients will say, "Oh, I've got nothing in

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my wardrobe that I want to wear like this.

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I'm, you know, I really

just want to go shopping.

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Nothing suits me or, this is not

the style that I'm really, want

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to portray at the moment."

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And what I found time after time

is that when we actually go through

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their wardrobes, find the pieces that

they love, but they're not wearing

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that often, and use those to build

their outfits, it's such a kind of

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eye-opener and a game-changer for them.

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Because normally these pieces

would be occasion pieces.

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You know, they would wear them

to a wedding or to a, fancy

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function at work or whatever it is.

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And then by actually choosing those

items to build your wardrobe around,

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you're not only getting more wears out

of those amazing clothes, but you are

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ensuring that every single outfit you

put together makes you feel great because

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that garment makes you feel great.

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And the way that we do that is just

by, either layering that garment with

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something that's going to make it more

casual or more formal, and just giving

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it the versatility that it deserves.

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It's just a new set of eyes.

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My clients are just

like, "Oh my goodness!"

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Like, I never knew I could wear

something like in that way.

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And I think especially in Perth,

I'm not sure about Australia-wide,

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but in Perth for sure, I've noticed

that people wear something one way.

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They have one or two outfit options for

each garment that they own, and that's

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the way they feel comfortable wearing it.

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And then that's where they stop.

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But actually to get the 30-plus wears

out of our garments, which is what, you

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know, the number of times we have to wear

an item to make it sustainable, we have

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to look for new ways to wear our items.

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Chryssius: And do you track

your items or your, " per wear"?

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Hazel: Um, so I probably should, and I

definitely advise my clients to do it.

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So I would say, take wardrobe notes.

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So I would say to my clients,

literally put a notebook into your

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wardrobe or next to your wardrobe.

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And every time you remember, just

write down what you're wearing, write

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down what you're wearing, what you, if

you add anything new, and if you then

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purge any of your items, just so that

you've got a kind of record of what

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you have and what you actually wear.

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Because that's going to really give

you, you know, before you start editing

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anything out that's going to give you

a really good breakdown, a really good

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run through of what you actually like

to wear and what you don't like to wear.

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And so often at the moment,

there is a, I think there's this

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culture of getting rid of stuff.

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So it's the wardrobe edits that we

want to go through and we just want to

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get rid of stuff you're not wearing,

which you know, in it, it can be a

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good way of, evolving your style,

but also, you know, I like to ask the

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question, why are you not wearing it?

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Is it because you feel like it's too,

you know, usually the answer is people

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feel like it's too nice to wear.

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And then we look at the ways

that they can actually get

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the wears out of those pieces.

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For myself, I don't track my, outfits

in that way just because I'm such

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like a, a visual, creative person.

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I would never read it.

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And so I just, I just take photographs.

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I take a photograph every

day of what I'm wearing.

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And it's, you know, it helps to create

content for Instagram, but it also is

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a really good visual reminder for me of

what I am wearing and again, those pieces

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that I'm not necessarily wearing, so that

I'm then focused on those ones that I'm

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not wearing so much and seeing how I can

make them work for my everyday wardrobe.

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Chryssius: Yeah, taking

photos is a great idea.

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I have never thought to do that,

but I feel like I'd be able to

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do that more easily than using

a notebook and writing it down.

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Hazel: Yeah, absolutely.

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And it's like it's, you

are already dressed.

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It's not like you're doing

it specifically, you know,

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with the notebook idea.

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I think that does definitely work for some

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people in the way that their brains work

and they want to have that tracking.

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And there's also apps, you know, if you

use like the Stylebook app, to create

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your, um, actually create your outfits,

then that tracks it automatically.

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So I think it really depends on how, you

know, how deep you want to go with it.

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But for me, taking a photo is absolutely

the easiest and the most consistent

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way that I, that I found to do it.

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Chryssius: Yeah, and then you could

just make a little album on your camera

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roll, make a little album for outfits

or whatever, and that'd be great.

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Then when you're not feeling

very inspired, I would do this.

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I would go back and then have a

look and go, oh, I might just pick

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that outfit and just go from there.

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Hazel: Absolutely.

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and that's exactly what I do for my

clients when we're building these outfits.

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I'll take photo after photo after photo

of each outfit that we build and then put

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that into a style guide for them so that

they've got that on their phone, whenever

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they're getting dressed, whenever they

are out shopping, whether that's retail

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on their own or preloved shopping with me.

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Then they've got a guide of what they do

have, what they are wearing and what they

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can, you know, it allows them to visually

see, oh, this piece is actually going to

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go with these other pieces that I have.

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Which takes all the

guessing out of shopping.

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And that's, you know, to me

that is the key to buying less

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is knowing what looks good.

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And once you have that key, and

once you've got the tools to kind

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of know what looks good, then.

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It's no longer a guessing game and you

can reduce your consumption tenfold.

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Chryssius: When we're talking about

capsule wardrobes, lots of people

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will actually associate the term

"capsule wardrobe" with saving money.

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How do you guide your clients in

building sustainable cost effective

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capsules without compromising on style?

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Hazel: So that's where, that's

where the outfit building part of

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my, services really come into play.

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And it is really just having the expertise

of how to layer things, how to put things

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together in new ways and how to, I guess,

give my clients a new eye and a new

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perspective on what they already have.

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So I was working with a client last week.

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She said, I've got about six

things in my wardrobe that I wear.

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It's going to take us no

time at all to do this.

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And then four hours later we had built,

I think 56 outfits that she absolutely

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loved, that were giving her, you know,

making her feel bold, making her feel

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confident, making her feel this way

that she hadn't felt since her twenties,

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completely appropriate for work and all of

those things from what she already owned.

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So that really is, you know, that's where

I'm working with my clients to get their,

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the maximum like return on investment of

the things that they've bought, because.

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I just want them to wear their clothes.

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That's all I want.

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And that's all they want.

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Really.

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Like what we, you know, the

average Australian wears, we

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wear our clothes seven times on

average before we get rid of them.

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We're buying as a country of people

we're buying 52 items each new per

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year, wearing them seven times.

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So basically one a week, wearing it

for a week and getting rid of it.

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Whereas like what you're going to

do by building a capsule wardrobe

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or building, outfits out of what

you own is saving yourself thousands

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and thousands of dollars on things

that you are not going to buy.

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Chryssius: And I even would, would go

as far as to say that seven is generous.

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There are plenty of outfits that I have

found over the last, you know, couple

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of years of trying to be more mindful

where I may have only worn them once.

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Some things I've bought, I

haven't worn them at all.

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And I'm sure there are plenty

of other people like that.

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They're sitting in the wardrobe with

their, with the tags still on them.

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Hazel: Yes, exactly.

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And I think for me, like what I

would say to that is that's kind of

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the easiest way to tell if something

was an emotional purchase is that

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you've never worn it because it

wasn't something that was necessary.

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And it, it's not necessarily like

lifestyle appropriate for your real life.

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And I think so often we buy things

that are lifestyle appropriate for a

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fantasy version of ourselves and not

who we really are because it's all,

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you know, that subconscious stuff that

ties into all of the illusions that

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the fashion industry is selling us.

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Chryssius: It is a dream.

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They're selling us the dream.

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Hazel: Yes.

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A, a pretend dream, which leads to

nowhere except the breakdown of, you

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know, the environment that we live in.

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And basically making very

rich white men much richer.

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So, yeah, from a cost, I just,

I just want to empower women

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to wear their own clothes.

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I want to empower women to save their

money and to spend their time and

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energy and, you know, all of those

resources that are not necessarily

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like, abundant in our lives.

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To save them for something that

really matters and that's going

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to really make them feel good.

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And that's really going to give them

that intrinsic feeling of connection

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and depth and all of those things,

because they already know they look good.

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Like they look good.

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They've got their clothes, they

look, they look good, they're fine.

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Chryssius: And but the thing

is, it's so tough to resist

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the allure of fast fashion.

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We're constantly bombarded with

advertising, whether it be on TV,

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in the magazines that we read.

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I mean, and don't even get

me started on social media.

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We have that in our face all the time.

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And then you combine that with, you

know feeling a little bit emotional.

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You, you combine those two

together and it's, dangerous.

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So do you have any strategies that

you can recommend for avoiding fast

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fashion, and staying committed to a

more sustainable clothing approach?

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Hazel: Yeah, absolutely.

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I started this journey because when

I was pregnant with my first child,

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it was the summer of 2019, 2020.

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And there was, was just, just

pre-Covid, but it was the Black Summer.

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There were fires everywhere.

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This huge, like, had this huge

overwhelming climate anxiety.

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And that kind of led me to exploring

a bit deeper about the impact of

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certain things, in our everyday lives.

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So, the fashion industry, I'm sure

you, you know this, but just in case

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your listeners didn't, it's actually

the third biggest polluter in the

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world behind burning of fossil fuels

and farming and the kind of like

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deforestation associated with farming.

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So, fossil fuels, we're getting there,

we're getting to a place where they

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hopefully eventually will be you know,

put on the back burner, so to speak.

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But what I was really interested in is

in that third biggest polluter, the thing

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that I can have the direct action on is

what I wear, what I buy and what I wear.

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And that is like such an easy thing for

me as a, a human who's not necessarily

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in the climate activism world, who's not

necessarily got the time, to like do X,

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Y and Z to, to change the politicians,

you know, what they, what they're doing.

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Just a normal person living my life, busy,

got two kids trying to do everything.

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But what I can do is I can control what I

buy, what I wear, and my relationship to

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that, and it's the easiest thing I can do.

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So I just, I now think about it

like, oh, I'm just, if I, I, I'm not

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buying retail and I haven't bought

retail for a long time, but if I

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was going to go and buy something

retail, I have two voices in my head.

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So the first voice is the one

that says, "You're not worthy.

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You need to buy new things to be worthy,

to fit in, to present yourself in the

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way that you want people to see you.

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You need to consume and you

need to buy new things 'cause

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you are not good enough."

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And what I've done is I've learned

to teach myself that that voice

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doesn't actually belong to me.

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That voice is nothing

really to do with me.

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That's the voice of, you know,

the ad execs and the, the

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people behind, the marketing of

fashion that have infiltrated...

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Chryssius: The ones that are

selling us the false dream.

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Hazel: Exactly!

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The ones that are like selling us

the false dream, and I was listening

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to, the Clotheshorse podcast, and

she is a woman who used to work

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in the fast fashion industry.

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And she talks about like her experience

and she's just like, it's all an illusion.

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And that, and we are telling ourselves the

illusion even when we work in that space.

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And we know it's not the truth, but we're

still telling ourselves the illusion.

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She says, you know, they're not sitting

around thinking, oh, we're going to fool

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these women into buying these things.

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They are sitting around saying,

this is going to be great.

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This next season is going to be excellent.

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The illusion is everywhere.

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But anyway, so I've taught myself

to try and catch myself and be

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like, that's not me talking.

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That is someone else.

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That is the illusion.

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Uh, sellers.

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Nothing to do with me as a human.

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And then the other thing I've taught

myself to do is to just not want to

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put my money, my hard-earned money

into the pockets of billionaires.

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I don't need to do that.

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I've got better things

I can spend my money on.

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Chryssius: We all do.

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Hazel: Exactly, we all do.

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Those two things combined have really

helped keep me on the straight and

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narrow, but also it's a creativity thing.

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Like I think it's so for all the

people out there who really love to

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love clothes, like I love clothes.

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When I lived in England, I, worked at

London Fashion Week and I interned

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for a big fashion photographer.

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And I absolutely, you know, I fell

in love with all of those things.

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And you can still have them

with what you already have.

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: 00:23:57

It's not like it's, I believe you

can have sustainability and style.

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: 00:24:01

It's not one or the other.

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: 00:24:04

I feel like I went on a

bit of a tangent there.

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: 00:24:07

Some things were said.

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Chryssius: Yes, they were.

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: 00:24:12

We are not editing them out.

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What are some of the more unique

capsules that you have been asked

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to create for your clients?

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Hazel: At the moment, I am just in the

process of working with a new client who

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has asked me to do a capsule wardrobe

for her menstrual cycle, which I am

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absolutely obsessed with the idea of, I

was so excited when she told me what she

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wanted and she's actually a finance coach.

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And she works with women to explore

their emotional relationship with money,

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pleasure, and what it means to be a woman.

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: 00:25:04

And so this is like so perfect for her

and such an interesting project for me.

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: 00:25:09

The way that I work with my clients

is I'll do a style consult first.

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: 00:25:13

We'll go through all of the different

things, you know, their wardrobe

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: 00:25:15

woes, what their real issues

are when they're getting dressed

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: 00:25:18

and all those kind of things.

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: 00:25:19

And then we'll come up with a bit of a

roadmap, on how to navigate that and how

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to get them to where they want to be.

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: 00:25:26

And so I haven't actually started building

these capsules with my client yet, but

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I'm, I'm like, yeah, so excited to start.

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: 00:25:35

And that really means, you know, for

all the women, I don't need to explain

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this, but the times where in week

two of your menstrual cycle, you put

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: 00:25:44

something on, you look amazing and

week four of your menstrual cycle,

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: 00:25:47

you put it on and it does not fit you.

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: 00:25:50

And

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Chryssius: I can relate to that.

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: 00:25:52

Hazel: Yeah.

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: 00:25:54

And it's just, it is, again, it's that

other, you know, it's an opportunity

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: 00:25:58

for those voices that aren't necessarily

ours to come into our head and say,

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oh, like, "You are not worthy this

week because this thing that fit you

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: 00:26:06

two weeks ago no longer fits you."

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: 00:26:07

Like, no, it's natural.

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It's perfectly normal, and it's something

that we all, you know, women of a

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: 00:26:14

menstruating age have to deal with.

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It's not something that we should feel

ashamed and feel less worthy and less,

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: 00:26:21

you know, I think so often women want

to hide in that week four of their

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menstrual cycle, week four and week

one, they want to hide their bodies.

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: 00:26:28

They don't want to wear nice clothes.

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: 00:26:29

It's like you still deserve

to feel good about yourself.

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: 00:26:31

You still deserve to feel, to

feel worthy and to feel good.

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: 00:26:35

So why not find those clothes that are a

little bit more forgiving and that are a

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: 00:26:39

little bit more, you know, they're going

to flatter you in the way that you want.

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: 00:26:43

And I hate that word "flatter", but...

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: 00:26:45

they're going to make you feel the

most confident, and comfortable with,

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: 00:26:48

and not like compromise on style, but

also not make you feel bad because

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: 00:26:53

your breasts are slightly larger

or your belly's slightly larger.

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Like, that is just what

it is to be a woman.

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Chryssius: Yes.

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I would love to know what kind of

things you are focusing on for this

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: 00:27:04

particular capsule in terms of making

your client comfortable during, those

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different weeks within the cycle.

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: 00:27:15

Hazel: Yeah.

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So I think it's, uh, probably what

we'll do is, we'll go, like I was

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saying, back to those hero pieces.

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: 00:27:20

So those pieces that she absolutely

loves, I should start calling

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them heroine pieces really.

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: 00:27:25

Maybe I'll do that.

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: 00:27:25

'cause

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Chryssius: Yes!

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: 00:27:26

Do it.

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: 00:27:27

Hazel: "Hero" is way too male.

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: 00:27:29

The "heroine" pieces in your wardrobe

that she really, really loves, that

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: 00:27:33

she can wear that make her feel great.

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: 00:27:36

But then also using - okay, so

I'll just digress a little bit.

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: 00:27:41

So, when you're preloved shopping,

it's a process like, because of the

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: 00:27:46

sizing aspect, you're not always going

to find something that you love in

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: 00:27:50

an op shop, in a consignment shop,

in a vintage shop that fits you.

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: 00:27:54

And so my number one, um, kind of tip

for that is to work with my clients.

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I say to them, it's about the vibe.

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: 00:28:01

Like what you're getting

from that piece is a vibe.

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: 00:28:04

It's not necessarily that exact piece.

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: 00:28:07

Take a photograph of

it, save it for later.

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: 00:28:09

And when we're looking in other shops,

if it's on the same day or whenever

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: 00:28:13

they're in those scenarios, they can

look for a piece that has that vibe.

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: 00:28:18

So then, for the capsule, it's about

finding the pieces that have the vibe

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: 00:28:22

for her, of those hero pieces that

she loves, or those pieces that she

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: 00:28:26

wants to wear when she's ovulating

and feeling amazing and her body

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: 00:28:30

and brain are like, yes, yes, yes.

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: 00:28:31

But...

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a bit more forgiving in terms of stretch

or in terms of the way that they fit.

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: 00:28:36

You know, you can use colour,

you can use pattern, you can use

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: 00:28:39

silhouette to really like still

give the vibes of what you want, but

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: 00:28:44

that can also give you the comfort.

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: 00:28:46

Like for me, if I'm in week four of my

menstrual cycle, like I just want to wear

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pants and I wear dresses all the time.

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: 00:28:52

And so about, it's about finding

those pants that give me the feeling

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: 00:28:58

of wearing my favourite dresses.

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: 00:29:00

Chryssius: It absolutely makes

sense, and I think that is such

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: 00:29:02

a fabulous tip about the vibe.

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: 00:29:06

The vibe is a thing.

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: 00:29:07

I've never really been able to, I

guess, put it into words as nicely as

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: 00:29:11

you have, but you have explained it

really, really well, and I'm going

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: 00:29:15

shopping now looking for the vibe.

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Hazel: The vibe.

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: 00:29:20

The vibe, and just take a photo.

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: 00:29:21

Like, because then you've got a,

again, as a reference, like our phones

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: 00:29:24

are such great tools in our styling

evolution, because you can just keep it.

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: 00:29:28

And also if you look on Depop or

whatever later, you might be able to

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: 00:29:32

find that exact thing in your size.

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: 00:29:34

Chryssius: Yeah - when we're on

the couch watching TV and scrolling

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: 00:29:39

and we move on to the online

shopping, Depop is where it's at.

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: 00:29:43

Yeah.

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: 00:29:43

We're going into it intentionally.

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: 00:29:44

Hazel: Depop is!

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: 00:29:46

Exactly, and you know, Salvos now

have a really great online store,

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: 00:29:49

and so do Good Sammy, actually.

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: 00:29:51

But just about, um, you know, searching

what you exactly want and if you

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: 00:29:55

found it and you've tried it on

already, that's half the battle and

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: 00:29:58

you know, you just need one size up

or one size down, like, easy peasy.

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: 00:30:02

Done.

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: 00:30:03

Chryssius: I want to ask a specific

question, around a particular

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: 00:30:08

style and that is athleisure.

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: 00:30:11

So athleisure is such a

big thing at the moment.

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: 00:30:16

Especially if you are, and I am not

picking on anyone here, but as a

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: 00:30:23

stay-at-home mum, having been there

myself, I know that that is generally

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: 00:30:27

what I would gravitate towards.

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: 00:30:30

But at the same time, I don't feel

like it is the most stylish of outfits.

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: 00:30:37

So my question around this is, how do

you approach creating capsules that will

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: 00:30:43

blend comfort and style for clients that

maybe have either a very active lifestyle?

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: 00:30:52

When I say active, I don't just mean

they're at the gym all the time, but maybe

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: 00:30:56

they are a stay-at-home parent and they're

running around after young children...

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Hazel: Okay, so a few, a few different

ways that I want to answer this question.

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Number one, if you love wearing your

athleisure and that's how you want to

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: 00:31:10

dress, absolutely a hundred percent do it.

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: 00:31:13

When I ask people the question, are

there any items in your wardrobe that

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: 00:31:16

you think you've worn 30 or more times?

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: 00:31:19

Usually it is...

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: 00:31:21

only, your yoga pants or your

leggings that you went to the

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: 00:31:25

gym or all of those things.

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: 00:31:27

Those are the pieces that

people wear consistently.

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: 00:31:29

And then my second question to them is

like, is this how you want to dress?

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: 00:31:34

And it usually isn't.

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: 00:31:35

And how, do you want to dress?

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: 00:31:37

So what I love about what I do is

giving people a new perspective

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: 00:31:41

on things that they already own.

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: 00:31:43

I have worked with quite a few mums

and they do live in their, athleisure.

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: 00:31:48

And it is just about finding items,

again, with the vibe of athleisure

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: 00:31:53

in terms of the durability, the

comfort, all of those things.

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: 00:31:57

Or usually they already own them, but

just putting 'em together in a new way.

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: 00:32:01

So, you know, absolutely if they

are comfortable and that's how

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: 00:32:05

they want to dress, then let's

put them in your capsule wardrobe.

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: 00:32:07

Let's give you all the reign of wearing

those items again and again, and

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: 00:32:11

get those 30-plus wears out of them.

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: 00:32:14

But if it's not, I would suggest

like a more casual pants.

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: 00:32:17

So like anything in a linen,

or like a, a light cotton, just

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: 00:32:21

like easy to move around in,

easy to run after small children.

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: 00:32:25

You know, I have, my kids are three and

one, so I'm definitely in that phase

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: 00:32:29

of my life, but I'm not wearing anymore

my active wear every day, which I was,

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: 00:32:34

before I kind of started this journey

into becoming a personal stylist because

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: 00:32:39

that's, you know, the easiest thing to do.

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: 00:32:42

Chryssius: Full disclosure, I am

currently wearing leggings and a jumper.

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: 00:32:49

Hazel: Yeah, it's just about, it's

kind of like that vibe, like what

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: 00:32:51

is going to give you the vibe of

that and the comfort of those items

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: 00:32:55

without, and making it more elevated.

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: 00:32:58

And that's kind of where the

versatility in your wardrobe comes from.

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: 00:33:01

It's like you could make something

more casual or more formal very

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: 00:33:06

easily by putting it with other items.

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: 00:33:09

So if you're going to wear, like ballet

flats are get, are coming back in.

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: 00:33:12

They're really like big on

the catwalks at the moment.

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: 00:33:16

And if you're going to wear ballet flat.

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: 00:33:19

It's just going to give you a slightly

more elevated look or if you're going

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: 00:33:22

to wear, do you know what I mean?

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: 00:33:23

It's layering things and

making them work for you.

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: 00:33:26

So, but I've actually completely

gotten rid of the, not gotten rid of,

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: 00:33:30

obviously I still wear them to the gym,

but I've just decided to wear my actual

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: 00:33:34

clothes and to not keep them for best.

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: 00:33:37

To just be like, okay, every day

I want to feel good about myself.

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: 00:33:40

And it's made such a difference

in my mental health to

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: 00:33:44

just get dressed every day.

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: 00:33:46

And it comes back to that, taking

photographs of your outfits.

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: 00:33:50

Like I look back at my outfits before

I kind of started this serious journey

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and I was like, yeah, just wearing

like drop sleeve grey t-shirts with

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a print, and my bicycle shorts.

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Like that is what I lived in.

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And I was, I was, you know, in that kind

of very freshly postpartum, time of my

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life, and it was kind of appropriate.

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But the minute I stopped doing that,

the feelings I had about myself

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and my capabilities as a human

in the world changed completely.

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And so I would never say to someone,

don't wear what you want to wear.

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Like always wear what you

want to wear, but branch out.

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Like, look in your wardrobe and maybe just

wear it, even if it's going to get dirty.

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Or look for fabrics that are more

durable, like a drill cotton you know,

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that can be washed and worn again.

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Like I've got the most amazing pair

of vintage Levis that I got from Depop

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before I stopped buying stuff that I've

washed maybe twice since I bought them.

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And I've definitely worn them more

than 30 times, but like, they're just

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so easy to wear and they just look

great, like effortless, easy to wear.

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Just put anything with them.

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Done.

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Chryssius: For anyone listening, then,

who is inspired by everything that you

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have talked about today in terms of

creating a capsule wardrobe and they

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want to have a go at creating their own

capsule, what are your tips to guide them

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through that process and empower them to

curate their own sustainable wardrobe?

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Hazel: Okay, so I'd just like to

start my answer by saying what I

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believe a sustainable wardrobe isn't.

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To me, a sustainable wardrobe

isn't a brand new wardrobe full of

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sustainably and ethically sourced

garments in linen, silk and cotton.

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It's just what you already own.

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: 00:35:43

The classic quote is, "the most

sustainable item is one you didn't buy."

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And for me, in the slow fashion

movement, the most sustainable garment

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: 00:35:53

is one you didn't buy again, which is

essentially what we do all the time.

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: 00:35:59

And especially when people are thinking

about those capsules, those Instagram

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: 00:36:02

or Pinterest capsules that we see, like,

you don't need to buy those clothes

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: 00:36:06

again because you already have them.

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: 00:36:07

It's just about taking them

out of your existing wardrobe.

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: 00:36:10

So again, I feel like the overriding

belief within a capsule wardrobe is

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that, that is then your wardrobe.

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That's it.

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: 00:36:17

There's no other clothes in your life.

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: 00:36:19

You may only have these 30 pieces

that are all cream and beige.

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: 00:36:23

Like, no...

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create a capsule from what you own.

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: 00:36:28

And like for me, I'm lucky I have,

my office is separate to my bedroom.

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So I have my wardrobe in my bedroom,

and then I have a rail in my office

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where I put my capsule wardrobe.

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: 00:36:39

And so, I still have all the other

things and I look at them every

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: 00:36:43

day and I think, oh, I can't wait

to wear you again once I'm done with

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this phase of my 90 day capsule.

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: 00:36:48

But just having the clothes separate

gives you a bit of distance and that's

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: 00:36:52

what's going to keep you interested in

the clothes that you are not wearing

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: 00:36:56

because, literally if you put something

away for like a week, two weeks, three

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: 00:37:01

weeks, when you see it again, you get that

same rush of dopamine as buying something

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: 00:37:06

new because it's like, oh, exciting.

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: 00:37:07

Like it really feeds that pursuit

of the new without actually

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: 00:37:11

buying or getting anything new.

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: 00:37:14

Chryssius: It's almost like when you

go back to your, um, well, I will

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go back to my parents' house and

I'll look in my wardrobe and I'll

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: 00:37:21

go, oh my gosh, I remember this!

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: 00:37:24

I'm taking it with me.

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: 00:37:27

Hazel: Yeah, exactly.

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: 00:37:28

And like the number one thing

that I do with my clients is I

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just, if they don't want to build

a capsule wardrobe, that's fine.

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: 00:37:33

But what we'll do is just work on

putting all the seasonal items away.

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: 00:37:36

Because then when they get, I say

to them, we are writing a list.

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This is your seasonal items.

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: 00:37:41

Keep it on your phone.

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: 00:37:42

Before you go out and that you

get that urge when the season

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: 00:37:46

changes to go and like rush to the

shops and buy all these new things

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: 00:37:50

because it's too hot or too cold.

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: 00:37:52

Look at the list, remember the list.

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I'll text you when the season changes

that you're going remember that you've

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: 00:37:58

got this list and get those pieces out.

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: 00:38:00

And getting them out will be not only

a beautiful, reminder of all the times

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: 00:38:05

you wore those things, and all the

memories and the history of those items.

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: 00:38:08

But also it feels like you've got

something new and you haven't.

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: 00:38:12

And often people will find this as well

if they've put stuff away to take to

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: 00:38:15

the op shop if they re-find that bag

and sometimes go through it, they're

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: 00:38:18

like, oh no, I'm not getting rid of it.

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: 00:38:20

It's like, this is a great piece.

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: 00:38:22

And it is just 'cause we

haven't seen it for a while.

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: 00:38:25

And then neutrals are great

if that's what you want.

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: 00:38:29

If you want a very, basic colour scheme,

absolutely choose your colour scheme.

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: 00:38:35

I would say with colours, like, what's

going to give you a better illusion of

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: 00:38:40

cohesion in your outfit is if you choose

all warm-toned or cool-toned colours.

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: 00:38:47

Sometimes a clash of a warm tone

and a cool tone can just give,

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: 00:38:51

'cause our eyes and our brains

are kind of cleverer than we are.

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: 00:38:54

So if you see something and

it looks a bit off, it's

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: 00:38:57

sometimes to do with the colour.

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: 00:38:59

For example, my 90 day summer

capsule that I'm doing at the moment

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: 00:39:02

is all really, warm-toned items.

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: 00:39:05

And so they go together much easier.

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: 00:39:09

They're not necessarily in

the same colour schemes.

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: 00:39:11

I haven't chosen them because they're all

analogous colours or anything like that.

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: 00:39:16

But it just works because

they are all warm-toned.

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: 00:39:20

So if you're a beginner, definitely choose

a few base colours like that is important.

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: 00:39:26

But choose what colours you love to wear.

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: 00:39:28

Don't choose something that you're

not going to wear, but choose colours

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: 00:39:30

that you do love and then choose

those heroine pieces that you've got

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: 00:39:35

in your wardrobe that you never wear.

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: 00:39:37

Choose five of them and just add layers.

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: 00:39:40

Like, add some t-shirts, you

can put over the top of dresses

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: 00:39:42

to make them more casual.

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: 00:39:44

Add your favourite accessories, and

then let your creativity run wild.

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: 00:39:48

And like I said in the beginning, there

are no rules, if something's not working,

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: 00:39:52

just swap it out for something else.

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: 00:39:55

It's your capsule.

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: 00:39:56

Make it work for you.

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: 00:39:58

Chryssius: So when we are talking about

maybe filling in those gaps within

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our wardrobe, what are your tips,

for successful secondhand shopping?

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: 00:40:07

Like how, how are people going to go

in there and spot the quality items?

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: 00:40:11

Because we all know what op shops

are like, especially, I feel like

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: 00:40:15

especially after Covid, it's just insane.

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: 00:40:17

So yeah, how are we going to

go in there and find the gems?

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: 00:40:20

What are we looking for?

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: 00:40:21

Hazel: So it really comes from having an

understanding of your existing wardrobe.

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: 00:40:26

So going through and looking at

your wardrobe, and then when you are

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: 00:40:31

out shopping, you want to be asking

yourselves the questions around, is

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: 00:40:35

this going to go with what I have?

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: 00:40:37

What are three items in my existing

wardrobe that I can pair this back with?

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: 00:40:43

Or three different ways that I can

style this item so that you know

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: 00:40:47

it's going to go seamlessly into your

existing wardrobe because you've already

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: 00:40:51

considered what you can wear it with.

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: 00:40:53

And it's such a game changer in terms of

thinking about something as an element in

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: 00:41:00

an outfit as opposed to a standalone item.

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: 00:41:04

And when that clicked for me, I was

like, oh, shopping has been unlocked.

719

: 00:41:09

Like, haha, people who are trying

to get me to buy all these things,

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: 00:41:13

like, now I've got the secret.

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: 00:41:14

And the secret is basically just

if it's not going to go within an

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: 00:41:18

existing outfit or with something

that you have, then just don't buy it.

723

: 00:41:23

Or if you need to get a new bra

to wear it with, or a new pair of

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: 00:41:26

shoes to wear it with or something

that you don't already have, then

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: 00:41:29

ask yourself, do I have the budget?

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: 00:41:31

Do I have the time?

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: 00:41:32

Do I have the resources to get that thing?

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: 00:41:35

If I don't, I'm not going to

buy this one piece because

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: 00:41:38

it, takes more work to buy it.

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: 00:41:41

And then also the guilt of not wearing it.

731

: 00:41:43

And then like that lifestyle thing that

we were talking about, is it lifestyle

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: 00:41:47

appropriate for me or is it lifestyle

appropriate for the fantasy version of me?

733

: 00:41:51

These are all like these kind of

concepts of how to do the shopping,

734

: 00:41:56

but then when you're actually there,

don't be afraid to leave with nothing.

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: 00:42:01

It's okay to go op-shopping

and leave with nothing.

736

: 00:42:04

That's fine because it's only

sustainable and it's only worth it

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: 00:42:08

if you're actually going to wear it.

738

: 00:42:10

And also don't be afraid, like I did

my style tour - I had a style tour

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: 00:42:13

last weekend and what I'm looking

at in my client's wardrobe is to have

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: 00:42:19

around 70% wearable items that they

wear all the time that are really

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: 00:42:24

easy to style with different pieces.

742

: 00:42:26

And then about 30% , you know, the fun

items that really give your, wardrobe

743

: 00:42:30

personality and let people see who you

are and what, for me, and this client,

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: 00:42:36

one of these clients that was on the

tour, the problem for me was always,

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: 00:42:40

I had these like amazing key pieces,

but nothing to actually wear them with.

746

: 00:42:44

And so that's what we

were looking at for her.

747

: 00:42:47

We were looking at more basic

stuff because I think there is a

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: 00:42:51

tendency when you're op-shopping

to buy these fun and frivolous,

749

: 00:42:53

like amazing pieces, but it's like.

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: 00:42:56

You need the base pieces to make them pop.

751

: 00:43:00

And I'm not saying like the

basics in terms of like, "the five

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: 00:43:03

'must-haves' everyone must have."

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: 00:43:04

Like I don't believe in that it,

but it's what is going to make your

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: 00:43:07

wardrobe more functional and your

wardrobe work for you, work harder for

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: 00:43:12

you instead of the other way round.

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: 00:43:14

Chryssius: The everyday pieces.

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: 00:43:16

Hazel: Exactly, exactly.

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: 00:43:17

If your wardrobe is full of those

statement pieces, which mine definitely

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: 00:43:20

is, and now I just wear all my statement

pieces together and I don't care.

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: 00:43:25

Exactly.

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: 00:43:25

And it makes people take me more seriously

for some reason as a stylist, the more

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: 00:43:29

outrageously dressed, the more they're

like, oh yes, she knows what she's doing.

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: 00:43:42

Chryssius: So please, tell us

what is your best bargain brag.

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: 00:43:46

Either the best or the most unusual,

most interesting, or just your favourite

765

: 00:43:52

piece that you've picked up secondhand.

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: 00:43:54

Hazel: Oh yes, absolutely.

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: 00:43:55

And it's always the piece that

I always tell everyone about.

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: 00:43:57

So as an avid op-shopper, I've got

this like decade or more of pretty

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: 00:44:03

much only buying secondhand clothes.

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: 00:44:05

Naturally, when I go anywhere

new, I always go to the op shops.

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: 00:44:09

Like that is like what I love.

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: 00:44:12

And it's quite upsetting for

me now because I am not buying

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: 00:44:15

anything, but I also get to go

op-shopping with my clients.

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: 00:44:17

So it kind of fulfills that

for me a little bit too.

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: 00:44:20

But I went to the States for my

best friend's 30th and we went to

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: 00:44:25

LA and across America, there's this

consignment shop called Buffalo...

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: 00:44:30

Oh, what's it called now that's

awkward, that I can't remember.

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: 00:44:33

Oh, Buffalo Exchange!

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: 00:44:34

Buffalo Exchange.

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: 00:44:35

And so it is a consignment shop in the

sense that people bring their clothes

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: 00:44:38

in and they sell them and they get a

percentage of the sale, but it has more

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: 00:44:43

of a kind of op shop vibe than a lot of

the consignment shops here in Australia.

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: 00:44:48

And I got this silk jacket from Guess

that says "Fantasy" across the back

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: 00:44:55

in these like bold, beautiful, kind of

like maroon colour and all these amazing

785

: 00:45:02

hand-stitched embroidered beautiful bits,

like it's like a silk bomber jacket.

786

: 00:45:06

And I had no space left in

my suitcase at this point.

787

: 00:45:10

But I was like, I must have this

and it cost me 15 US dollars.

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: 00:45:15

And it is the most, like, that's

probably the piece I've worn,

789

: 00:45:20

you know, 60, a hundred times

because it goes with everything.

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: 00:45:25

And I absolutely love it.

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: 00:45:26

And even to the point where when I

was working as event manager, I'd wear

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: 00:45:29

it to pretty much every event that I

worked and I got, I got this nickname

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: 00:45:34

as Fantasy Haze, which is what all the

people on the event site used to call

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: 00:45:38

me, 'cause they'd be like, oh, there's

Fantasy Haze with a silk bomber jacket,

795

: 00:45:43

just walking around the event site.

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: 00:45:45

Um, but yeah, so that's the

piece that I love the most.

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: 00:45:48

And it's also the piece that kind

of makes me sound the most, um,

798

: 00:45:53

oh, I can't, wanky is probably

not, but that's what I feel like.

799

: 00:45:57

I'm like, this is the story and it's

a bit wanky, but also I just love it

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: 00:46:00

so much that I can't not tell you.

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: 00:46:01

Chryssius: It's perfect.

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: 00:46:02

I can't wait to see it.

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: 00:46:04

Please do send me a picture.

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: 00:46:06

And for anyone listening that would

like to see this beautiful piece as

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: 00:46:10

well, I will make sure that it is on the

Reloved Radio's Instagram highlights.

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: 00:46:17

Hazel: Amazing.

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: 00:46:18

Yes.

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: 00:46:18

I'll send you one, I have many

pictures of me wearing it.

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: 00:46:20

Chryssius: Oh, of course!

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: 00:46:22

I have no doubt.

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: 00:46:25

Thank you so much, Hazel.

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: 00:46:27

This has been amazing.

813

: 00:46:28

I cannot tell you the number of

tips I have picked up just from

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: 00:46:31

chatting with you today, and I'm

sure that our listeners have as well.

815

: 00:46:35

So, if anyone out there is keen

to find you online, where will

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: 00:46:41

they be able to locate you?

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: 00:46:43

Hazel: So I am a lover of Instagram.

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: 00:46:46

I'm @curatedwardrobe.au.

819

: 00:46:49

And you can also check out my website,

which is thecuratedwardrobe.com.au.

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: 00:46:56

I'm always here for

talking sustainable style.

821

: 00:47:00

If you've got a question, a burning

question about, op-shopping or

822

: 00:47:03

whatever it is, you could also email

me hazel@thecuratedwardrobe.com.au.

823

: 00:47:08

And yeah, like, this is my passion.

824

: 00:47:11

It's what I love, it's what I live for.

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: 00:47:12

So I'm honestly always happy

to answer any, any question

826

: 00:47:17

about that kind of thing.

827

: 00:47:18

So yeah, thank you so much for having

me and letting me just talk to you

828

: 00:47:23

about all the things in my brain.

829

: 00:47:26

Chryssius: It's amazing.

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: 00:47:27

I feel like our brains are aligned

because all the things you want to talk

831

: 00:47:31

about are all the questions I have.

832

: 00:47:32

Yes!

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: 00:47:33

So good.

834

: 00:47:36

Thanks for listening to Reloved Radio.

835

: 00:47:38

You can find the show notes for

today's episode on the website,

836

: 00:47:41

www.relovedradio.com.au And that's

also where you can download all my

837

: 00:47:47

best sustainable shopping secrets.

838

: 00:47:49

There's 45 of them, they're free,

and they'll walk you through exactly

839

: 00:47:52

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